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| From | Message | Posted by houseofcook accuserveone.com
6/16/2008 10:29:18 Play online chess | Subject: French Defence, What do you play as White.
Message: Hi there,
A question for players who play the French defence as their main opening.
What openings would you play as white ? I know this is dependant on the response by black. Is it a similar setup to the French, or totally unrelated?
What was your thinking in choosing these setups ?
| Posted by ionadowman accuserveone.com
6/16/2008 13:38:35 Play online chess | My own favorite...
Message: ... for White is 3.Nc3, hoping for the Winawer (an opening I like as Black as well, which says something about this line): 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5. 3.Nc3 and if Black plays 3...Bb4 we have the Winawer line, leading to a good fighting game. Black can try instead the exchange on e4 (I have a consultation game going on Gameknot at the moment in which the opponents have played this). Or he can try 3...Nf6, an OK line, but one I dislike as Black.
Playing the French OTB almost exclusively for several years, I found four opponents out of five favoured the Tarrasch, 3.Nd2, keeping the c-pawn free to advance. Not particularly committal, it's not easy for Black to get a hold on the ensuing game. I favoured the Guimard (3...Nc6) with considerable success, but blocking Black's c-pawn isn't everyone's cup o' java.
Finally, there's the more committal Advance Variation: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 (3...c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 are often played. White can then continue with the "standard" 6.Be2, or try the more ambitious 6.Bd3, possibly heading for the violent Milner-Barry Gambit: 6...cxd4 7.cxd4 Bd7 8.0-0 Nxd4 9.Nxd4 Qxd4 10.Nc3 Qxe5 11.Re1 ... An example is the game kikoursus vs ionadowman played in 2005.
There may be other lines (I gather 1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 is sometimes played), but these are the main ones.
Cheers,
Ion
| Posted by kansaspatzer accuserveone.com
6/16/2008 14:48:14 Play online chess |
Message: I think he's asking what openings French players play when they're White. But FWIW, I play 2.Qe2 when faced with the French. ——— Interview with Magnus Carlsen — The world's best chess player on modelling for G-Star Raw, psychological ploys, and why he's not big on Christmas. Q: Hello Magnus ... MC: Hello Small Talk. Q: How does it feel to be back for the London Chess Classic? MC: It feels good. Last year's tournament was really enjoyable and very successful for me too. Q: The Russian world champion Mikhail Botvinnik used to get training partners to deliberately blow smoke in his face to prepare for opponents who may try to unsettle him. Is there anything you do to prepare for psychological tricks or gamesmanship? MC: Thankfully, one cannot smoke at the board now so I don't have to worry about that. I try to focus on the game rather than ...
Posted by chessisvanity accuserveone.com
6/16/2008 22:34:55 Play online chess | pffft...
Message: Throw them off....I play the exchange.
Why would I sit there and let a guy play his favorite opening?
If i play 1.e4 and he plays 1...e6 I know he knows the French.
So i play 2.d4...d5
3.exd5!
Yes some say this might be drawish....but unless he is 2200 or better then i have the advantage.
The same goes with the caro-kann. The exchange variation!! ——— McShane Retains Lead at London Classic; Anand Beats Carlsen — Luke McShane, who won his first two games, did not win in Round 3 of the London Chess Classic on Friday. But he managed to draw against Vladimir Kramnik of Russia, the former world chess champion, and thus remained in the lead. After three of the four games in each of the first two rounds ended decisively, Friday was relatively quiet, with three games ending in draws. The exception was a win by Viswanathan Anand of India, the world chess champion, over Magnus Carlsen of Norway. It was the second loss for Carlsen, who actually had an advantage early in the game before making two bad moves that allowed Anand to shatter his kingside pawns and then infiltrate with his queen and rook. Carlsen could ...
Posted by houseofcook accuserveone.com
6/16/2008 23:27:35 Play online chess | French Defence,what do you play as white.
Message: Thanks for the replies.
It was interesting to find out what French players would play against the French.
I appreciate the in depth reply from ionadowman, but I did mean what does a French player play as white, what would be your initial moves, would you start with 1.d4 or 1. e4 or something else ? ——— Surprising Leader at London Chess Classic — The torrid pace continued at the London Chess Classic on Thursday as three of the four games again ended decisively. Luke McShane of England, who had pulled off a big upset by beating Magnus Carlsen of Norway in Round 1, won again in Round 2, beating Nigel Short, another Englishman. It was Short’s second loss. Carlsen bounced back by upending Michael Adams, one of the four English chess players. Hikaru Nakamura of the United States, who had managed to draw a long game against the world chess champion Viswanathan Anand of India in Round 1, had Black for the second game in a row. It was also his 23rd birthday. His opponent, Vladimir Kramnik of Russia, the former world chess champion, ended up ...
Posted by chessisvanity accuserveone.com
6/16/2008 23:31:54 Play online chess | ...
Message: well duh...
A french player will have an advantage playing against the French so I imagine they play 1.e4 as white. ——— Exciting and Surprising Start to the London Chess Classic — If every round of the London Chess Classic is like the first round, then it is going to be a very exciting tournament. The chess tournament began Wednesday and three of the four games ended decisively. The most stunning result was the victory of the English grandmaster Luke McShane over Magnus Carlsen of Norway. Carlsen played some speculative moves and was punished brilliantly by McShane. The other two wins were also quite exciting. Michael Adams, one of the four English chess players, checkmated his countryman David Howell in 27 moves with a scintillating attack, while Vladimir Kramnik of Russia overwhelmed Nigel Short, the other English player, with a central pawn break that eventually led to ...
Posted by ionadowman accuserveone.com
6/17/2008 00:44:42 Play online chess | Sorry -
Message: - Misunderstood you to mean what would I play if faced with the French.
But you can infer that I was not afraid to face the French myself, so would open 1.e4 at least sometimes.
But my stock opening as White, for even longer than the French was when I was Black, was the English Opening: 1.c4. 1.e4 was more of a "change" opening, just for the sake of variety. Some "English" players tend to stick with "pure" English positions, but I was more than happy to transpose into King's Indian Defences (from White's perspective), Sicilians Reversed or (surprisingly frequently) Maroczy Binds. Quite a few French defence player like the King's Indian Attack as White, but I never had much luck with it...
Cheers,
Ion ——— Women’s World Chess Championship Begins With Some Upsets — The first round of the Women’s World Chess Championship, which is being held in Hatay, Turkey, ended Monday, and a few of the higher-ranked chess players are already on their way home. The biggest upset was the victory of Betul Cemre Yildiz of Turkey over Pia Cramling of Sweden. Cramling was a semifinalist at the 2008 championship and is ranked No. 9 in the world among women. The manner in which she lost was also surprising as she simply used up all her time in the second game of her match before she could make her 40th move in a completely equal and uncomplicated position. Other upset victims included Lilit Mkrtchian of Armenia, who lost tie-breaker games Monday to ...
Posted by lighttotheright accuserveone.com
6/18/2008 12:53:52 Play online chess |
Message: Ion,
You and I apparently like the same openings with the same variations! That's spooky. Maybe we know some things others don't.:-O
| Posted by ionadowman accuserveone.com
6/18/2008 13:43:38 Play online chess | ...
Message: Ken -
I wonder what they can be?? :-/
Maybe we just like lines with a bit of fight in them?
(I have to admit, though, my record with the English on GK hasn't been all that wonderful...)
Cheers,
Ion
| Posted by premium_steve accuserveone.com
7/07/2008 12:25:10 Play online chess |
Message: i'm a french player now (i used to play the alekhine and scandinavian), and i most often prefer 1.e4.
it's true that as black i like to play fairly solidly with 1.e6 because i have found that most lines give me a position i am comfortable with - without much risk of being a lot worse out of the opening.
as white i feel i can take more liberties in an open style game and look for some kind of attack. (that being said, i still fear open sicilians as white!)
sometimes i'll give 1.d4 or 1.f4 a try, or maybe 1.g3.
| Posted by markb56 accuserveone.com
7/13/2008 15:44:40 Play online chess | Maginot Line / Hitler Gambit
Message: If I were playing white against the French I would try to try to get black to play the Maginot Line after which it's an easy matter to maneuver your pieces around the flank. However, white must be careful and avoid the now refuted Hitler Gambit, because if white gets too bold he will find himself fighting on two different fronts.
| Posted by kansaspatzer accuserveone.com
7/13/2008 17:19:33 Play online chess |
Message: I just recently switched to the French and I normally play e4, although there are certain opponents I'll play d4 against. I must admit I'm not all that booked up against the Sicilian but playing lots of Gameknot games using the opening DB helps when you get OTB, IMO.
| Posted by wulebgr accuserveone.com
7/25/2008 12:03:17 Play online chess | As I French player,
Message: I understand the futility of 1.e4. I play 1.g3, 1.d4, 1.c4, and 1.Nf3, reserving 1.e4 for weaker opponents and blitz.
| Posted by kansaspatzer accuserveone.com
7/26/2008 22:27:47 Play online chess |
Message: So what is the Hitler gambit? The only Google hit for it is this page...
| Posted by jstevens1 accuserveone.com
7/26/2008 23:49:54 Play online chess | Expert Draw!
Message: Hi everyone! Just to let you know that there is a game on the Public Annotations where I had the black pieces and played against The Tarrasch. The game is called Expert Draw because at the time my opponent was 832 points north of my rating. Despite a 2 pawn deficit I managed to draw it. This was a big result because it is still the only time I have managed to draw against an Expert. Ionadowman has already commented on the game but if any of you have anything to add please feel free to do so.
Hope you have all enjoyed your weekend.
Cheers and bye for now.
Joanne
| Posted by savage4731 accuserveone.com
7/29/2008 01:22:30 Play online chess | Kansaspatzer
Message: That's because the correct way for black to play is just to resign as soon as possible.
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